I took an article that our Professor posted on his blog, and began a 'thread' (as they are referred to): Cut Global Warming by being a Vegetarian?
The point was to guage people's reactions, and inclue a huge 'IF this is the case...' to see if people were able/willing to set aside their knee-jerk reactions and seriously consider the possibility of vegetarianism, as I am. (Kind of my own worldwide social experiment.)
As expected, there are a few people who are dead-set against it, and refuse to hear otherwise. However, it's very intriguing, even hopeful, that there are some who are, like me, meat-eaters, but who are at least willing to ponder the situation, the possibility.
Someone brought in an article that I'm going to take a closer look at over the weekend: Vegetarian Myths
(excerpt: Agricultural animals have always made a major contribution to the welfare of human societies by providing food, shelter, fuel, fertilizer and other products and services. They are a renewable resource, and utilize another renewable resource, plants, to produce these products and services. In addition, the manure produced by the animals helps improve soil fertility and, thus, aids the plants. In some developing countries the manure cannot be utilized as a fertilizer but is dried as a source of fuel.
There are many who feel that because the world population is growing at a faster rate than is the food supply, we are becoming less and less able to afford animal foods because feeding plant products to animals is an inefficient use of potential human food. It is true that it is more efficient for humans to eat plant products directly rather than to allow animals to convert them to human food. At best, animals only produce one pound or less of human food for each three pounds of plants eaten. However, this inefficiency only applies to those plants and plant products that the human can utilize. The fact is that over two-thirds of the feed fed to animals consists of substances that are either undesirable or completely unsuited for human food. Thus, by their ability to convert inedible plant materials to human food, animals not only do not compete with the human; rather, they aid greatly in improving both the quantity and the quality of the diets of human societies.
That first paragraph sounds dangerously close (if not on target) to the idea that we touched upon in class, as well as in Feuerbach: objective matieralism verses 'sensuous human activity' -- stripping the animals of their value by labelling them as "renewable resources".
The second might have a point, in that the plants that the animals are eating are unsuited for human food. (I refuse to acknowledge 'undesirable', as that is a preference and not a reason.) However, wouldn't that simply require the fields to be planted with something that humans can eat? (There is mention later in the article about the soil of fields that have been used solely for wheat being eroded of their nutrients -- but that is a _fact_ of farming. How is that a defense of meat-eating?)
Someone else brought up Plan B 2.0 : Rescuing a Planet under Stress and a Civilization in Trouble by Lester Brown (the entire book is online for free!).
Same person also brought US EPA - Human Methane Emissions which has a table that shows the recorded (rising!) levels of methane emissions from various sources - landfills, coal mining, et cetera. It's got _lots_ of juicy information!
To curb the car emissions problem, someone brought in Can Soylent Green save the world... and our climate? Welcome to the new biodiesel (excerpt: Algae? Done right, it can yield perhaps 10,000 gallons per acre per year, because it's harvested every two weeks instead of once a year. And folks are experimenting with different forms of algae to see if they could boost that production rate maybe four- or fivefold.

Algae
Photo/Vermont Department of Health
As the discussion continues (and I hope to keep it going through the semester, fueled by what I learn in class), I'll keep you guys up to date on my 'social experiment', as well as any further sites of interest. :)
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I'm impressed with your "world-wide" initiative, and look forward to hearing more about it. Vegetarians have no monopoly on truth (though they perhaps have stumbled on at least one). Everyone in our seminar would benefit from visiting sites like the "vegetarian myths" site -- a source also for intriguing thesis statements. I have no doubt, however, that each of the claims there are either false or dangerously misleading. Consider, for example, the longish statement about B12, suggesting that a B12-packed, meat-based diet is preferable on this score to an inevitably B12-deficient vegetarian or vegan diet. This is a clear instance of a "false dichotomy" fallacy (among others, including "incomplete alternatives" and "red herring,"), since B12 is readily available in supplements and from a source independent of domesticated farm animals. Here's a statement on B12 from the Vegan Socity:
"To be truly healthful, a diet must be best not just for individuals in isolation but must allow all six billion people to thrive and achieve a sustainable coexistence with the many other species that form the "living earth". From this standpoint the natural adaptation for most (possibly all) humans in the modern world is a vegan diet. There is nothing natural about the abomination of modern factory farming and its attempt to reduce living, feeling beings to machines. In choosing to use fortified foods or B12 supplements, vegans are taking their B12 from the same source as every other animal on the planet - micro-organisms - without causing suffering to any sentient being or causing environmental damage.
Vegans using adequate amounts of fortified foods or B12 supplements are much less likely to suffer from B12 deficiency than the typical meat eater. The Institute of Medicine, in setting the US recommended intakes for B12 makes this very clear. "Because 10 to 30 percent of older people may be unable to absorb naturally occurring vitamin B12, it is advisable for those older than 50 years to meet their RDA mainly by consuming foods fortified with vitamin B12 or a vitamin B12-containing supplement." Vegans should take this advice about 50 years younger, to the benefit of both themselves and the animals. B12 need never be a problem for well-informed vegans."
A thought just occurred to me:
(P) If I show someone a picture of an animal being slaughtered, or a picture of the general happenings in a slaughterhouse, as a way to deter people from eating meat, then I am appealing to their emotions (being disgusted by the 'horrific reality' of the situation).
(P) If this is true, then the knee-jerk reaction of preference is valid because I have allowed for emotion to stand as a reason (understanding preference as a function of emotion).
_______
(C) Thus the choice to show the horrific pictures is not a valid method to urge people to not eat meat because of the appeal to emotion rather than logic/ethics.
If that's the case, then it'd be better to argue on terms of logic & ethics. However, arguably, an appeal to logic would fall short because most people are not aware of the (seemingly) inherent logical fallacies, nor the ethics of animal/human relations...
How to fix that?
Logic: Go through each point on the Vegetarian Myths page (indeed, as many 'myths' as possible), re-explain logically, and explain each fallacy in lamen's terms so that every person with an even basic command of the english language can understand why this or that is not true?
Ethics: How to reassign value to animals? ...this seems like such an easy thing to do, but it's really not. The people in my neighborhood have distant relationships with their animals -- a distance emphasized on the difference between being 'human' and being an 'animal'... which propagates the problem.
Bring each and every person physically _to_ a slaughterhouse, hand them a knife and say, "Kill it and you'll have your steak for dinner..."
...seems a little over-the-top...
As with most things in life, I shall continue pondering this...
P.S. As I'm in the Logic class this semester, I'm curious: Was that a strong argument?
P.P.S. Your comment in last class about thinking too much -- it's damned true... (I wish I'd have heard that 6 months ago. Without going into details, I, in effect, gave myself a 'quarter-life crisis' because of thinking too much!)
Self-discipline is truly far reaching....
Though pursuasive in some ways, the argument has too many sub-conclusions and imbedded premises to satisfy a logician's demand for clear and convincing validity (and soundness). Each step in the argument must be singular, obvisouly true, and clearly relevant to the conclusion, while all steps taken collectively must provide sufficient support for the conclusion.
I've a penchant for doing things the hard way, so I'm not at all surprised by your words.
Indeed, this serves as a challenge. I might just write an essay so that I have a better understanding of arguments, and how to construct them.
Seeing that I've chosen the 'blogging path', might it serve better to work on this essay via my blog? (I certainly do not might writing it formally. I just don't know if you'd prefer it one way or the other. :) )
P.S.
I'm reminded of what my fiction teachers told me:
SLOW DOWN! See things one at a time. Look at them, turn them over, then figure out if they're important to the overall storyline...
...in this case, important to the argument.
:)
I like your fiction teacher's advice. And either way: use the blog or some more traditional route for addressing logical argumentation (and invite Matt Silliman to comment as well).
dkj
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